our judicial system is a joke

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And Benjamin – Vancouver IS boring. You need to go to the mountains, to the island, or go out east. But don’t stay in Vancouver if you don’t like it.

I really do have a large spiritual belief which has a deep and important meaning to me. But it does upset me when people claim that furry started at cave-drawings or in Egypt.

The thing that articles like this ALWAYS get wrong, is that what furry IS, is different for every attendee of these conventions. The conventions are a place where different aspects of furry fandom can come and meet up with others who have the same feelings.

For example, the people who like to costume, can come and see and visit with others who like to costume. Those who are into spirituality, or sexuality, art, writing, and history are all welcome to come and visit with others who like the same thing.

The _ONLY_ common ground between everyone who attends a furry convention is that they like the idea of animals sharing traits (spiritual or physical) with humans.

It’s very very simple, Murr-suits DO exist and are used, by a small number of people. The media likes to concentrate on these people, because these articles sell copy. This is why they like to take pictures of people who are dressed ‘extremely furry’

To the people in the fandom who feel they can talk to the media and tell them the ‘truth’, you’re misleading yourself into thinking that the truth is the fandom isn’t about sex for some, and you’re misleading yourself into thinking the media is there to get the real picture. The real picture is BORING.

“Do you know what would make a refreshing article?

When the media finally decides to focus on what we are instead of what we aren’t.”

I totally agree with Xydexx.

When the media finally decides to focus on what we are instead of what we aren’t.

His re-definition of ‘Santorum’ is an eternal gift to the Universe. As often as possible, I go to the ‘Frothy mix’ site to keep the Google counts as high as possible.

Thanks,Dan! Keep on keeping on.

Cheers, Mark

I am disappointed that The Dependant chose to misquote a good number of our attendees to add to the considerable slant pushed with comments from “the mink” and this person’s friends.

I’m afraid this article misses the point entirely and borders on merely aiming to prove a stereotype that the author entered the convention with. My warnings to Jesse were meant to show how often media, such as The Dependant, can slant the words of the minority to seem to be the words of the majority, and how some would be weary of that happening here. It looks like it was true, after all.

I had high hopes for this article and am truly disappointed VancouFur’s good intentions were so abused, not to mention being personally insulted at The Dependant’s choice to misquote me and infer my lack of honesty.

Thank you for the attention, but this article only serves to prove to me that The Dependant still has a lot to learn about seeking the truth vs shocking their audience.

I like how the reporter was all “buddy buddy” then miss quoted many things.

I also like how Star Wonder and Kuviare’s words were taken as “truth”. The unnamed Cat, Mink and Rabbit are in a way right. There is a sexual aspect but then again there is a sexual aspect to EVERYTHING if you look for it.

Describing what furry is to a single person is like trying to describe the sun to a blind person. It’s different for everyone.

In the end this article isn’t all THAT bad, it could be worse. The reporter on the other hand is a two-face. I hope to never see this person at any conventions in the future. It would cause the misrepresentation of EVERY fandom.

@Tiger,
As far as people taking offense; Many people who liken it to having an animal sprint really have a religious/spiritual belief thy often refer to them selves as therianthropes. Also who the hell care who gets offended, religious people are always annoyed at something.

I’ll call The furry fandom “adult dress up playtime” when we start calling NASCAR, “drive around in a circle time” or football “throw the leather ball around time” Lets make sure we apply your critique evenly and call all things What they really are.

Tiger: We discussed that, actually, though it didn’t make it into the article. The three of us were also unhappy with furry appropriation of the Native American concept of spirit animals.

Like on my birth certificate, it’s not my “Fursona”.

Just thought I’d clarify.

But seriously, likening Furry play to Native American spirit animals is very likely incredibly offensive to those who legitimately believe in spirit animals.

People had one spirit animal, that they likely discovered after a pretty hard peyote or fasting trip. They didn’t choose one they liked then make 3 or 4 alternate possibilities with elaborate fictitious back stories.

It’s adult dress up pretend time, face it. I’m not saying don’t do it, just call it what it is. Owning up to it being adult pretend time actually makes you come across as more adult because you don’t give a fuck and enjoy yourself.

It’s like when raw vegans make a crust out of mashed nuts and berries, put some kind of sauce that’s another mash of things and put more nuts and berries and leaves on top and try to call it a pizza.
It just isn’t, and trying really hard to convince people otherwise makes you come off as desperate and not entirely confident in what you do.

Do whatever you want if it doesn’t harm other people, just call it what it is.

If you want to know why we’re so suspicious around the media, it’s because there have so often been media portrayals of our community/fandom that focus only on making us look like weird freaks and fetishists rather than people with a different hobby.

I mean yeah, it is sexual for some people but that’s because human beings are very sexual creatures too. =)

It’s nice to see journalists who take the time to treat the subject like we’re people, that doesn’t happen often enough.

And, I mean, you could maybe do some badass CGI stuff if people really want dinosaur-related sexytimes. I’m just saying.

You may want to check your sources.

And while the woman tries to make it seem like this is all about honesty and communication, that last quote completely tarnishes any integrity the article started out with. Pure hedonism.