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		<title>Comment on Swell Season at the Malkin Bowl is Strict Joy by Rich Williams</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/life-and-culture/lifestyle/swell-season-at-the-malkin-bowl-is-strict-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1734</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LiveNation kills live music. Spread the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LiveNation kills live music. Spread the word.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1734" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1734', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1734-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1734" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1734', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1734-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Leaks, Traps and Politics Gone Awry by Tea &#38; Two Slices: On NPA Hacks And Police Tanks (But No Tanks) : Scout Magazine</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/featured/leaks-traps-and-politics-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tea &#38; Two Slices: On NPA Hacks And Police Tanks (But No Tanks) : Scout Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sean Orr &#124; Leaks, Traps and Politics Gone Awry. *sigh* I hate to give so much attention to&#8230;that&#8217;s right&#8230;NPA hacks, but The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sean Orr | Leaks, Traps and Politics Gone Awry. *sigh* I hate to give so much attention to&#8230;that&#8217;s right&#8230;NPA hacks, but The [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swell Season at the Malkin Bowl is Strict Joy by Jesse D.</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/life-and-culture/lifestyle/swell-season-at-the-malkin-bowl-is-strict-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreement all around, sir.
I&#039;ve never been in a more oppressive venue, and it&#039;s made me seriously reconsider going to either the Flaming Lips or the Scissor Sisters shows there, both of which I was more than a little pumped about. In fact, it&#039;s made me reconsider ever going back to the Malkin Bowl at all. While there&#039;s no denying that the it&#039;s had a number of impressive acts grace its stage, that doesn&#039;t make a lick of difference when the policies involved fly in the face of everything concertgoers have come to expect.
And how, if the Bowl hopes to survive as a live music venue of any sort of popularity, can it continue these types of practices?
Can you imagine if The Commodore installed seats on its floor?
Or if the bar at Richard&#039;s on Richards had only served apple juice, and kicked everybody out by 10?
Of course not.
It&#039;s the only time I&#039;ve ever been at a show where the promoters and indeed the venue itself threatened to ruin an otherwise excellent performance. If it hadn&#039;t been for Hansard and Co&#039;s exceptional warmth and involvement, I would have left early and demanded a refund. No question.
The Malkin Bowl should be a rock n&#039; roll venue, not The Orpheum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreement all around, sir.<br />
I&#8217;ve never been in a more oppressive venue, and it&#8217;s made me seriously reconsider going to either the Flaming Lips or the Scissor Sisters shows there, both of which I was more than a little pumped about. In fact, it&#8217;s made me reconsider ever going back to the Malkin Bowl at all. While there&#8217;s no denying that the it&#8217;s had a number of impressive acts grace its stage, that doesn&#8217;t make a lick of difference when the policies involved fly in the face of everything concertgoers have come to expect.<br />
And how, if the Bowl hopes to survive as a live music venue of any sort of popularity, can it continue these types of practices?<br />
Can you imagine if The Commodore installed seats on its floor?<br />
Or if the bar at Richard&#8217;s on Richards had only served apple juice, and kicked everybody out by 10?<br />
Of course not.<br />
It&#8217;s the only time I&#8217;ve ever been at a show where the promoters and indeed the venue itself threatened to ruin an otherwise excellent performance. If it hadn&#8217;t been for Hansard and Co&#8217;s exceptional warmth and involvement, I would have left early and demanded a refund. No question.<br />
The Malkin Bowl should be a rock n&#8217; roll venue, not The Orpheum.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1725" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1725', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1725-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">1</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1725" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1725', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1725-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Leaks, Traps and Politics Gone Awry by Jay Currie</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/featured/leaks-traps-and-politics-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll never have a leak in this town again.

But, seriously, civic politics in Vancouver has been a blood sport for a long time. The web just makes it easier for smaller dogs to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll never have a leak in this town again.</p>
<p>But, seriously, civic politics in Vancouver has been a blood sport for a long time. The web just makes it easier for smaller dogs to play.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1724" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1724', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1724-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">3</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1724" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1724', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1724-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Swell Season at the Malkin Bowl is Strict Joy by Rich Williams</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/life-and-culture/lifestyle/swell-season-at-the-malkin-bowl-is-strict-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article generally, but I would like to focus my comment specifically on Malkin Bowl as a venue.

It is a beautiful spot, has great sound, and has managed to procure a ton of great shows over the past 2 or 3 years. Nevertheless, certain things are lacking that could, it seems, be easily changed.

1) 10pm curfew. Given the fact that outdoor concerts in Vancouver require summer conditions, the fact that summer in Vancouver means a late sunset, and the fact that new-fangled rock concerts tend to include lights, which add to the experience of the show, an 11pm curfew is the bare minimum. Massive Attack&#039;s otherwise phenomenal show in May was marred by the inability to fully appreciate their light show and the fact that they came on late (and shortened their intended setlist) as a means of dealing with the situation.

2) No alcohol served inside. This cunt of a situation speaks for itself, although it is exacerbated by the inability to duck outside the venue and into the delicious pub mere meters away.

3)The atrocity that is the situation described in the above article. While I have never experienced it myself and hope that it is not a sign of things to come, I can&#039;t imagine what cartoonish supervillain at LiveNation headquarters dreamed up that one. Props to the Swell Season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article generally, but I would like to focus my comment specifically on Malkin Bowl as a venue.</p>
<p>It is a beautiful spot, has great sound, and has managed to procure a ton of great shows over the past 2 or 3 years. Nevertheless, certain things are lacking that could, it seems, be easily changed.</p>
<p>1) 10pm curfew. Given the fact that outdoor concerts in Vancouver require summer conditions, the fact that summer in Vancouver means a late sunset, and the fact that new-fangled rock concerts tend to include lights, which add to the experience of the show, an 11pm curfew is the bare minimum. Massive Attack&#8217;s otherwise phenomenal show in May was marred by the inability to fully appreciate their light show and the fact that they came on late (and shortened their intended setlist) as a means of dealing with the situation.</p>
<p>2) No alcohol served inside. This cunt of a situation speaks for itself, although it is exacerbated by the inability to duck outside the venue and into the delicious pub mere meters away.</p>
<p>3)The atrocity that is the situation described in the above article. While I have never experienced it myself and hope that it is not a sign of things to come, I can&#8217;t imagine what cartoonish supervillain at LiveNation headquarters dreamed up that one. Props to the Swell Season.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1714" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1714', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1714-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1714" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1714', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1714-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Leaks, Traps and Politics Gone Awry by sean orr</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/featured/leaks-traps-and-politics-gone-awry/comment-page-1/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>sean orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh oh, guess who just made the list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh, guess who just made the list&#8230;</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1713" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1713', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1713-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1713" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1713', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1713-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Walking Tours with the Fighting Flaneur by Hipster Designer</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/featured/walking-tours-with-the-fighting-flaneur/comment-page-1/#comment-1622</link>
		<dc:creator>Hipster Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More like Lucy and Ricky. Ju got some &#039;splainin to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like Lucy and Ricky. Ju got some &#8217;splainin to do!</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1622" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1622', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1622-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1622" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1622', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1622-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 28: Mel Gibson by Geoff Denning</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/entertainment/the-chris-james-show/episode-28-mel-gibson/comment-page-1/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Denning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a good one!  Nice work guys. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good one!  Nice work guys. <img src='http://thedependent.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1614" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1614', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1614-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1614" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1614', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1614-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Walking Tours with the Fighting Flaneur by sean orr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah we&#039;re like Lawler and Kaufman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we&#8217;re like Lawler and Kaufman&#8230;</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1612" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1612', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1612-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1612" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1612', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1612-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Episode 28: Mel Gibson by realdeal</title>
		<link>http://thedependent.ca/entertainment/the-chris-james-show/episode-28-mel-gibson/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>realdeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you sure it was an accident...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you sure it was an accident&#8230;</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-1611" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1611', 'add', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-1611-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-1611" src="http://thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('1611', 'subtract', 'thedependent.ca/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-1611-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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